Discussion in 'General Indian Domain Name Discussion' started by Truekumar, May 10, 2012.
And what will be the registration price of these new extensions?
And, much more important, the renewals.
Developing is always good as long as one has enough time or money to hire webmasters for it. I have lot's of domains which are begging me to develop them. From time to time I manage create some website but this is still more partisan work than organized process. I'm planning to be more active in that area in the future, though.
To my opinion, these new TLD will have the same future as .aero or .pro. They will never compete against ccTLDs, established since years.
BUT .in is NOT yet fully established as is .Org or .Com! Anyway guys we really have to start pushing awareness of the .In extension and building quality websites, the new extensions WILL be branded against QUALITY websites so exactly how will we compete in regards to real estate? Would google search favour a quality built .Indians website or a PARKED .In name??
We have roughly just less than ONE YEAR to start building up the reputation of the .In extension, or else we have very little chance to compete with others which will VERY QUICKLY become more established and desirable extensions:
.airtel, .indians among 2,000 potential new web domains: NDTV Gadgets
Indian domains on ICANN's list include .dabur, .Indians and .hdfc
The above information is quite worrying and have a look at the below link, many many extensions are the future of the web, only way forward for .In is quality and establishment:
Anyone for .tennis? Bidders for new domain names revealed | Regulation | ZDNet UK
a discussion on comparison of TLD v/s ccTLD v/s gTLD. every extn has it's own positives and limitations.
most of the cctlds are comparitively new to TLDs which have been vintage
most cctld registration have legal limitations and conditions attached to it (country registry and the law) over and above icann and TLDs only have icann regulations.
most cctld are perceived as location / geo-target specific info sites and TLDs are global.
users are more aware about the TLD globally and prefers to open a ccTLD only if they are looking for specific country info
gTLD willl safeguard the brands who has the funds to invest (Rs. 1.5 crore approx) and renewal of Rs. 1 million annually.
So, big corporates, industries and brands will be able to play and control gTLD. gTLD committee should ensure the registration of the generic domains are not done unless they have a patent , IPR to it (trademark will not help to my understanding). Generics, Locations, should not be allowed strictly..
I do not see in any ways a threat to any extn from any other extn. Any domain has it's worth if it's a website.. no matter what!!! But on a contrary, domain industry growth of any extn supports the sales and growth of other extns!
We cannot compare water, fire and air ! isn't it?
Sorry I disagree, it is NOT like comparing water, fire and air, these extensions and the keywords that have been registered with those extensions are COMPETING for the same Indian USERS of the web are they not? Of course they are! Is cars.in not competed with say for example potentially cars.bharat ? Or with cars.india? Of course they will ALL be competing with each other for a web user in India who may go online to search for a car to buy right??
I know this is a bit late but please read the following:
India Inc ready to shift to other side of the dot on www
There are MASSIVE commitments going on here guys, we really need to
start getting scared and START looking on how we will tackle this……MY
plan is to DEVELOP.
In regards to the above questions…well guys, the registration price
would could be set to anything that the owners of the extension would
like! This is going to be MASS COMPETITION! Does no one feel the wrath
of all of this becoming quite devastating to the potential of the .in
Such an absolute MESS! Please read the following article, .In is DEFINITELY in some major trouble and we MUST strengthen .In names and the quality of .In by DEVELOPMENT and DEVELOPING our BEST .In names into GOOD QUALITY websites that are actually USED by the Indian public.
IF we do not start to develop our names NOW and establish the quality of the extension in the hearts of Indian web users , when these 1934 new names are released in the next 2-3 years, our investments will be worthless.
SO PLEASE DEVELOP GUYS! DO NOT JUST SIT ON YOUR NAMES, otherwise the new extensions will blow .In away!
Where is the article?
What percentage of your .in portfolio is developed? Do you have examples of names you developed?
Here you go Domaining123, sorry about that, here is the link:
.XXX was just the beginning — get ready for 1934 new top level domains | VentureBeat
I am currently developing 11 of my top names, and I should have 15 LIVE websites by the end of December, it is costing me a lot of money to develop these sites but I think in the long run it will definitely be worth it. So in answer to your question, YES I am very much so into development, its just that I need partners to help me. I currently have one partner helping in development but still looking for others.
By the way, I like the look of your websites, how are you doing with them?
There is no question, .in/.co.in are still in early stages of acceptance in India. All you have to do this look at major companies already using .in or .co.in in India - Google, Yahoo and plenty of other.
.org is for a totally different use and branding, it can't compete with .com and it doesn't clash with .in either. So lets not get carried away with this comparison. .in has a clear usage and market that is India.
We saw numbers of low levels of broadband use in India (roughly 1% of the population), that is the challenge and with more internet usage the awareness will come. Marketers will figure it out, but yes domainers can develop their names into useful websites to help that...
There is no need for panic in my opinion.
even thinking of such comparison is mere waste of time and energy. Its like you are comparing Apple VS oranges and do not even know what is apple and what is Orange (.ORG or .IN).
both .ORG and .IN are good provided you hold the right and timing and Approach the appropriate Buyer. Else Domain names themselves do not have value, what matters is whome and how you sell them.
Ok Ankur, could you please enlighten us on how you would sell to the right appropriate enduser and the correct sales technique to use when the buyer potentially has 1934 other alternative extensions with the exat same keyword as yours? What will convince them to buy YOURS?
.In on its OWN, will NOT be enough to keep it on the top spot in India in terms of market demand, therefore the only way to increase value of .Ins is to enable it to be more recognised as a QUALITY extension and popular with Indian usage in India and BY Indian web users.........therefore DEVELOPMENT is the only way forward guys!
PLEASE don't sit on your top quality names and just wait for them to increase in value, they will NEVER increase to the values we are all dreaming about without any development. The game has CHANGED.
The total number of domainers worldwide is negligible compared to the total users.
The total number of domainers dealing in the .IN market is even lesser.
What I am trying to say here is, a few domains developed by such a negligible subset of people is really not going to make or break an extension. Seriously!
The .IN/.Co.in is widely used by a lot of Indian and foreign companies who are dealing and entering the Indian Markets and evident, as an example, in most of the commercials you get to see in some Indian Channels, they all have an .IN or a .CO.IN website.
They are not going to change their extension from .IN to .lol or .whatever for sure.
Also, as rightly pointed out by some of the posters above, .IN and .ORG are not comparable. They are as different as apples and oranges.
The only way the extension can lose it's popularity is if there are any policy level changes at the registry level which puts off the companies/end users from registering it , which does not seem a plausible scenario.
Thank you Domainventure for your insight and perspective on this situation, but I would have to disagree with you on this one. I actually DO believe that many .In domainers do definitely hold some of the MOST highly brandable keywords and names in the .In market, yet most of these domineers including a few on this forum are JUST sitting on their names which is NOT helping the .In extension reach its full potential as being recognised with quality websites that endUSERS can actually USE!
You state that .ORG is not comparable to .IN, and that they are completely different fruits BUT my argument is not just with the .ORG extensions, what about the other 1934 extensions soon to be released onto the market??
Surely if an enduser has 1934 DIFFERENT fruits to choose from, then .IN (being an Apple) has A LOT of other fruits to compete with for taste and appeal right??
Please guys, we need to stop investing in an imaginary dream world where everyone whom has a decent .In name will make millions! If it was honestly as easy as buying a good keyword .In name for $500 and then sitting on it for 5 years and expecting to sell it to an enduser for $50,000, then do you not think that there would be far more millionaires in the world and far more domineers in this game?? Its not difficult to do that is it? I know many people who would spend a quick few thousand of dollars to gain a guarantee of millions in the future, so why are is there such a low population of domainers in the .In market?
I am afraid that the game will NOT work this way for any domain investor, the ONLY way forward is REAL development of our names into fully functioning quality websites.
The competition has ALREADY started guys, be WARNED, start developing your .IN names NOW! Or else get left behind with with the other 1934 DIFFERENT extensions coming to India VERY VERY SOON!
DEVELOP NOW and increase your search rank and credibility with search engines such as google and THEN and ONLY THEN will your premium keyword .IN names be worth something. Please read the below article:
Directi launches its first web suffix, .pw - The Times of India
While I do see some of the new extensions having a future, I don't see why there would be any future for Directi's .PW. I cannot even describe this TLD as "doomed" because I find its purpose and meaning so bafflingly obscure.
Does "PW" have some special significance in India that I'm unaware of? Evidently they're trying to market it as an abbreviation for "professional web". But I'm not even sure what "professional web" means. Something utterly different from .PRO, I'm sure.
And how many TLDs are abbreviations for some multiple-word string? Sure, .com is short for "commercial" and "org" is short for "organization". But those are single words. And both ".com" and ".org" are pronounceable monosyllables. .PW isn't pronounceable except as 4 syllabes -- "pee double you".
How is .PW a threat to .IN, given that .IN resembles the word "India"?
Case A: Go to Site.in. ("Site dot in") Straightforward.
Case B: Go to Site.pw. ("Site dot pee double you"). What's "pw"? It's short for "professional web". Why "professional web"? Shrug of the shoulders ...
Wait, I mis-spoke. .PW is pronounceable after all -- as an infantile word for solid excrement.
@ImageAuthors...thanks for your opinion.
I was not trying to imply that .PW is a threat to .IN, rather what I am trying to get across to the many DREAMERS on this forum is that this is JUST the BEGINNING of something enormous in the domain name game. .PW is just the beginning, there will be many thousands of more extensions being released onto the market within the next 10 years, and you can GUARANTEE that not all of them will be as insignificant as .PW!
Therefore IF we do NOT start to establish the .IN extension before the massive marketing corporations start releasing these new extensions, then my friend, we are all DOOMED!
You must understand that just registering or buying a quality keyword .IN name is NOT ENOUGH to see any significant growth in the value of that name anymore, within 5 years there will be dominers owning another few hundred NEW EXTENSIONS on the market with EXACTLY the SAME keyword as yours, and many of these extensions will be used by Indians in India, soooooo WHAT will set yours apart from the others??!
THERE ARE other potential extensions which will be MUCH BETTER sounding than .PW and at least a few of these WILL flourish in INDIA! Its a guaranteed statistical probability that from so many new extensions, a few will definitely survive and succeed in India, especially with the marketing power of multi-billion dollar companies behind them such as Reliance ect.....
We MUST act now and start to DEVELOP! And secure the .IN extension as being about QUALITY and not just parked pages!
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