The proof that .IN is a global TLD

Kokoro

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I do not understand why .in is recognized as "international".
.in is quite popular in Germany. They consider that extension once .de, .com, .eu is taken. You can check it yourself here. Really lots of German sites with that extension. This trend is also visible in other EU countries but not as much as in Germany. I have registered a few top keywords in German and Polish languages just in case if that trend continues.

Knowing that I wouldn't say .in has definitely not an international potential although it has more common with the word internet rather than international.

I also often see Iranian and Indonesian sites with that extension. For some people .in looks better than their national .ir or .id. Don't remind any .in for Indiana or Indianapolis so that's perhaps less popular combo there.

Of course, that doesn't make it automatically a rebranded extension like .tv but it has some potential. If someone asked me, I would say that .in is "domain for India with added bonus". ;) Currently I almost don't consider its possible international usage when researching .in potential.
 

Dman

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.in is quite popular in Germany. They consider that extension once .de, .com, .eu is taken. You can check it yourself here.
Haha. No offense, but HUGE failure of logic there.

Searching site:.in on google.de does not demonstrate that Germans like the .in domain in any way.
The results are essentially the same as Google.com, google.co.uk, etc.

Matter of fact, you will notice that the P1 results show no German language sites and websites the sites that are there are mostly targeting the Indian market.
 

kussy

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If .in suggests International wouldn't .in then, be the top tld by now owing to its "international" presence ?

I'm sure most domainers are investing in .in because of India's growth in the coming years and not because of its brand-ability as "international" !

I'll push it a little further and say that, to the non-Indian average Joe who happens to see .in for the first time, .in is more likely to stand for Internet than India.
Lmao! really? Maybe to the non-Indian average caveman.

.in is quite popular in Germany. They consider that extension once .de, .com, .eu is taken. You can check it yourself here
You may want to try site: with a .ch, .nl, .co.uk, .fr, .be, .it etc. Looks like they go for a lot more once the .com, .de, .eu is taken ;)
 

the_poet

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Lmao! really? Maybe to the non-Indian average caveman.
Well, since you look at it from the perspective of an Indian, no wonder you find it funny, but put yourself in the shoes of people living in the opposite part of the world. It's not automatic for them to think .in stands for India. It's not something like .us or .uk, which is strongly recognizable and meaningful even to someone who isn't familiar with the Internet, let alone knowing the difference between a gTLD and a ccTLD.
 
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kussy

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I'll agree, a few people may not recognize .in actually stands for India but to say they'll recognize it as Internet is a big joke.
 

the_poet

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I'll agree, a few people may not recognize .in actually stands for India but to say they'll recognize it as Internet is a big joke.
Of course no. What I'm saying is that it's more likely for them to associate .in with Internet than India (for no other reason than they're currently "surfing" the Internet when seeing a .in domain name).
 
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kussy

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What I'm saying is that it's more likely for them to associate .in with Internet than India
Just as they would associate any cctld they are not familiar with, with its vanity use (vanity cctld).
And you're saying .in has value for its vanity use?
 
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Aubits

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Interesting discussion, but ultimately what is my pitch going to be?

.in - the only domain extension that's country focussed for a large indian market growing at a pretty good pace, potential to become worlds 3rd largest economy soon

.in - maybe the 3rd or 4th best global domain extension.

I like the former pitch.
 
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wot

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Interesting discussion, but ultimately what is my pitch going to be?

.in - the only domain extension that's country focussed for a large indian market growing at a pretty good pace, potential to become worlds 3rd largest economy soon

.in - maybe the 3rd or 4th best global domain extension.

I like the former pitch.
I like both.
 

wot

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As a matter on interest who thinks these were bought because of the.in relationship to India?


Poker.in – $60,000 (Domain Round Table Auction, August 2007)
SportsBetting.in -$42,000 (Sedo 30/3/2011)
Mails.in – $24,000 (Sedo, 2005)
Searching.in – $22,000 (Private Sale, Unknown, 2006)
LinkShare.in – 10,000 GBP or $19,755 (Sedo, 10th Jan. 2007)
Webcam.in – £9,200 GBP or $18,299 (Sedo, 8th May 2007)
Defend.in – $9,473 (Sedo, March 2008)
Leds.in – $7,973 (Sedo, April 2008)
123.in – $7,500 (Sedo, August 18th)
 

Kokoro

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Haha. No offense, but HUGE failure of logic there.

Searching site:.in on google.de does not demonstrate that Germans like the .in domain in any way.
The results are essentially the same as Google.com, google.co.uk, etc.
No offence, but please check the link before you write something. I set it "Seiten auf Deutsch" but you can even narrow to "Seiten aus Deutschland". Most of results are .in websites in German language. There are lots of them.

You don't believe these sites in German language target Indian market, do you?
 

the_poet

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Just as they would associate any cctld they are not familiar with, with its vanity use
Exactly.

And you're saying .in has value for its vanity use?
At all! For those who are aware of .IN (not to mention domainers), it has value for what it is! The ccTLD of a country with great culture, huge population and high potential. But, again, to the rest of the world that's unfamiliar with the extension, I'm afraid it's different.
 

kussy

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The END USERS know very well that .in means India and these are the guys you want to be concerned about, not the rest of the world.

Take an example..
If I own a business and I want to target the Indian market, I'd definitely know their cctld, or I'd look it up in google (If I'm too dumb to know it).
Now I'll have a website put up on a .in and target the Indian audience. (I'm sure the common Indian will at least know his country's extension). This is all that matters to me then. Why would I give a flying four about the rest of the world?
 

the_poet

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The END USERS know very well that .in means India and these are the guys you want to be concerned about, not the rest of the world.
Unfortunately, in order for an extension to become mainstream you'll need mass adoption, that's where the rest of the world set in.
 

the_poet

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I mean that for me .IN may have value as India's ccTLD and for someone living somewhere else in the world .IN might be the perfect domain for their new project since it's the ideal abbreviation of 'Internet' for them. IMO both of us are right, since we're both happy with what .IN stands for.

I mean that .IN needs both kinds of users: endusers targeting Indian public and people using a .IN domain for whatever they want it to stand for, since, unlike most ccTLDs, it has potential in this sense as well.
 

mwzd

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"But .in, like other prepositions - .me / .to / .be can mean whatever you want it to, geo targeting is really a non-issue if you know what you're doing."

Magic puja?
Is there one? I thought domain investment was a complex science with a heavy linguistic viability influence.

I don't think .in is global and I have some solid ones. I've probably spent more on a single .in aftermarket purchase than 99% of the members here, if not EVERY member here.
If you don't think it's global, you're missing a bet. And which one did you get? hosting or domains? :)

As far as outside.in, that's an anecdote. Anecdote is not evidence, no more than bit.ly 'proves anything. about the .ly tld. That one keyword (outside) represents the single most intuitive 'domain hack' in the .in tld and means absolutely nothing to other .in domains or the future trajectory of the .in space. Whenever people need to reference heavily isolated anecdotes to support a much larger position, that's usually a pretty good sign that they don't have the facts or logic on their side.
Outside.in uses .in as a preposition, did you get that point? Now try this with your domain - hosting.in/USA or hosting.in/Germany or even hosting.in/Cloud and you'll begin to see what I'm trying to show there. I agree that one domain does not an extension make, here are some more references: .IN Developed .IN / .CO.IN Showcase - NamePros.com & Site Rank You can choose to ignore what you see, or you can open your eyes an absorb everyone's experience and then evaluate it for your own requirements, your call.

The reason no one can do this is because the facts just aren't there.
Did you see the links to Google language search in my previous post? You can see the facts, just can't seem to digest them too well.

I'm hugely pro .in and pro India, but this particular theoretical tangent is just ridiculous. It would be like suggesting the .us TLD is international in scope because it spells the word "us". Theory? Fine. Reality? Absolutely not.
That's because you're thinking of the past, not of the future. Kids going online after 2013 will be familiar with .word extensions, unlike our generation, which has been .com trained.

There are two types of domainers- be they active with .in, .com or .anything. There are those who listen to the pseudo-wisdom of other domainers and fail, or those who recognize (and listen to) the realistic needs of business and succeed.
I've always said the left side of the dot is more important than the right, believe it or not. [ The Extension Agnostic | mwzd.com ] And if you're going to get a crappy keyword, even having the .com at the end won't help you.

Just as they would associate any cctld they are not familiar with, with its vanity use (vanity cctld).
And you're saying .in has value for its vanity use?
Yes, I'm saying it does. As also usage for subdirectory/subdomain hacking. GamesForGirls.com didn't go for $500k on because it looks pretty, there is a linguistic logic to it, as there is to all branding and .in just works a LOT better than .tw or .co.uk for international usage.

The END USERS know very well that .in means India and these are the guys you want to be concerned about, not the rest of the world.

Why would I give a flying four about the rest of the world?
Actually, as of today the rest of the world has more money invested in .IN than Indians. Plus you can be sure the people spending $x,xxx or more on .in domains are mostly NOT based in India. Chew on that for a bit.
 
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kussy

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Actually, as of today the rest of the world has more money invested in .IN than Indians. Plus you can be sure the people spending $x,xxx or more on .in domains are mostly NOT based in India. Chew on that for a bit.
I didn't say Indian end users! I said End users.
The Indian ends users are not really getting it atm..
 
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the_poet

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I didn't say Indian end users! I said End users.
From what you wrote, you meant endusers whose business has something to do with India. I'm saying people living somewhere else in the world who have nothing to do with India may find .IN the perfect extension for their new Internet effort. IN needs both kinds of users.
 

the_poet

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I see .IN just like Bollywood movies: both are big indian products, but in order for them to become mainstream worldwide, India needs to export them, just like the US do with Hollywood movies.
 
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