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    Default Redirection and bad faith

    Hello,

    I have a question regarding legal aspect of Indian domaining. I found nothing precise on this:

    Does anyone know (Maybe Mitsu can give their opinion?) if using an Indian domain for redirection can be considered as bad faith?

    More precisely, if all my domains redirect to a unique developped website, with real and non illlegal content, with no trademark issue, can this procedure be considered as a good way to secure domains?

    Thank you very much,
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    Default Re: Redirection and bad faith

    very useful question... waiting for answers from experts.
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    Default Re: Redirection and bad faith

    Quote Originally Posted by domaining123 View Post
    Hello,

    I have a question regarding legal aspect of Indian domaining. I found nothing precise on this:

    Does anyone know (Maybe Mitsu can give their opinion?) if using an Indian domain for redirection can be considered as bad faith?

    More precisely, if all my domains redirect to a unique developped website, with real and non illlegal content, with no trademark issue, can this procedure be considered as a good way to secure domains?

    Thank you very much,
    JeanClaude.

    No, not at all , redirecting domain name to your own developed website is not bad faith.

    Many corporate house redirect their .IN domains to their fully develop .com version.

    We donot think any issue in that........if you want very very precise answer PM us the details with names...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitsu View Post
    ....Many corporate house redirect their .IN domains to their fully develop .com version...
    Please consider this scenario:

    If a domain name X is not trademark/porn related, not illegal but is undeveloped
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    another domain Y is also not trademark/porn related, not illegal, not parked, and is developed with a real content.

    X and Y are both totally unrelated to each other. Means they are not the .in versions of their .com counterparts.

    Now if X is being forwarded to Y, just for the sake of implying with the clause of "NO PARKING", will it still be considered fair-use by In Registry?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitsu View Post
    No, not at all , redirecting domain name to your own developed website is not bad faith.

    Many corporate house redirect their .IN domains to their fully develop .com version.

    We donot think any issue in that........if you want very very precise answer PM us the details with names...
    There will be no implied bad faith.

    But what about Google penalising the domains being forwarded which are not related to the content. For example if you have a website for www.Pens.in and you forward www.Soccer.in, i guess google could penalise the domain soccer.in for not serving the right content or having duplicate content.

    Please help me here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitsu View Post
    No, not at all , redirecting domain name to your own developed website is not bad faith.

    Many corporate house redirect their .IN domains to their fully develop .com version.

    We donot think any issue in that........if you want very very precise answer PM us the details with names...
    Thank you very much Mitsu!

    In fact, I'm not thinking to specific domains, the idea is to find a simple solution to protect domain names in development and/or with no dedicated website. The situation is well discribed by Daver (see above):

    Quote Originally Posted by Daver View Post

    If a domain name X is not trademark/porn related, not illegal but is undeveloped
    and
    another domain Y is also not trademark/porn related, not illegal, not parked, and is developed with a real content.

    X and Y are both totally unrelated to each other. Means they are not the .in versions of their .com counterparts.

    Now if X is being forwarded to Y, just for the sake of implying with the clause of "NO PARKING", will it still be considered fair-use by In Registry?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daver View Post
    Please consider this scenario:

    If a domain name X is not trademark/porn related, not illegal but is undeveloped
    and
    another domain Y is also not trademark/porn related, not illegal, not parked, and is developed with a real content.

    X and Y are both totally unrelated to each other. Means they are not the .in versions of their .com counterparts.

    Now if X is being forwarded to Y, just for the sake of implying with the clause of "NO PARKING", will it still be considered fair-use by In Registry?
    No, If .IN domain name goes for INDRP process then arbitrator can some time suspect that such redirection to unrelated website is for gain and same can be counted for Bad faith. As both the websites are not owned by same person and unrelated content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by s51888 View Post
    ....But what about Google penalizing the domains being forwarded which are not related to the content....
    I think by using a forwarding service which is redirecting with Redirect 301 is not hurting the forwarded domain X. I think the Google penalize the domains only when the content unrelated to the domain itself (X). Whereas, by forwarding, we are sending Google (and all the traffic) to the new domain (Y).

    Just for example, Monster, BigRock, Mitsu words are not literally related to their actual website contents..

    And by the way, Mitsu's free Forwarding Service gives the Redirect 301

    And the motive of our all exercise to imply with the No Parking clause..

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    Thanks for the reply Mitsu.. Sorry I din't make myself clear.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mitsu View Post
    ...As both the websites are not owned by same person and unrelated content...
    Quote Originally Posted by Daver View Post
    ....X and Y are both totally unrelated to each other. Means they are not the .in versions of their .com counterparts...
    I should have added that both domains are owned by same person. Like Pens.in and Soccer.in, and Soccer.in is developed. Pens.in is simply forwarded to Soccer.in So pens.in is in question here.

    But I guess even then evenl Inregisry can also sniff that this is done just to circumvent the No Parking Clause.. ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daver View Post
    Thanks for the reply Mitsu.. Sorry I din't make myself clear.



    I should have added that both domains are owned by same person. Like Pens.in and Soccer.in, and Soccer.in is developed. Pens.in is simply forwarded to Soccer.in So pens.in is in question here.

    But I guess even then evenl Inregisry can also sniff that this is done just to circumvent the No Parking Clause.. ??
    Case to case issue can be differ but this will cover in USE of Website section of INDRP and complaintant can make this thing as issue .... You require to have strong defence to prove that why you did this ?
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