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04-29-2009, 08:15 AM
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And the likes of Directi are going to sit back and take this you think? Why the scaremongering tactics? ICAAN are happy with the scenario you propose?
China policy- I am fully aware of the do's and dont's but you seem to be likening them to IN registry and there is no comparison.
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dude im not giving threat, just making you aware of the upcoming policy of indian registry, the matter of foreign & indian people registering 100000000's of indian domains like cyber squatters and selling/trading has come into judiciary and govt is gonna pass the policy to inregistry anyday. so if you wanna be smart then avoid jumping and diving into indian domains right now. its not gonna do any good in the long term. and try to sell as many indian domains as you can and as fast as you can so that even if the policy updates in inregistry and they start deleting domains of bulk domain portfolio owners then atleast the buyer of your domain will loose the domain not you.. xD you just take the money from the buyer and sit at home and be happy to have escaped the trouble very from near very closely.
about china policies? ask CNNIC they will help you out better in chinese! xD though there is an english version out too... i believe.
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04-29-2009, 08:28 AM
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@wot,
directi can pay all the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ and bribe and make officials of inregistry not to delete their self-owned domains, but inregistry wont be sparing those who got it for reg-fees xD you will need to actually pay some more cash in legal fees and bribing officials to protect your indian domains if youre living offshore and those onshore can manage political influence on inregistry and get the job done! xD
so you can either bribe or loose when the policy comes up.. choice is yours! my work was just to make you aware of the problems that could crop up so you can be prepared to bribe beforehand rather than waking up in the morning seeing your godaddy.com account containing 0 indian domains.. all wiped up and deleted by inregistry(just by suspicion of cyber squatting activities in your a/c and the huge list of indian domains doing nothing)! LOL!
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04-29-2009, 08:38 AM
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@wot,
directi can pay all the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ and bribe and make officials of inregistry not to delete their self-owned domains, but inregistry wont be sparing those who got it for reg-fees xD you will need to actually pay some more cash in legal fees and bribing officials to protect your indian domains if youre living offshore and those onshore can manage political influence on inregistry and get the job done! xD
so you can either bribe or loose when the policy comes up.. choice is yours! my work was just to make you aware of the problems that could crop up so you can be prepared to bribe beforehand rather than waking up in the morning seeing your godaddy.com account containing 0 indian domains.. all wiped up and deleted by inregistry(just by suspicion of cyber squatting activities in your a/c and the huge list of indian domains doing nothing)! LOL!
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Please point me to the IN registry info that advocates what you are saying.
There is a list of officials who will accept bribes to ensure domain renters retain their names?
You seem to know who they are let's name a few names and get this out in to the open.
If what you are saying is half correct I am more that happy to start a campaign to bring what is obviously a potentially huge fraud involving multi layer corruption to the attention of the world media and the International Court of Justice.
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04-29-2009, 09:41 AM
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dude,
international court of justice couldnt help save sex.cn from getting deleted due to their CNNIC new policies just this year so how will it help your indian domain from getting deleted?
indian domains are meant for the country people that is indians first, others later. if your are an outsider then your domain can be deleted and you will not get any justice to get any .in domain no matter what argument you put there as it will be case of cyber squatting which makes indian domains unavailable for local people for which the .in CCTLD was actually started for and goes against the cause, though local indian people can get justice as .in means a country targeted domain for indians.
and what i told you was about the rule thats gonna come up in inregistry forced by the govt to delete domains of cybersquatters.. but i think i did the wrong thing by telling it to you in advance. now i will not tell anything else thats gonna come up. as you only will come to know what will happen when the law is passed upon for cyber squatting in indian domains.
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Abhishek
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04-29-2009, 10:33 AM
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dude,
international court of justice couldnt help save sex.cn from getting deleted due to their CNNIC new policies just this year so how will it help your indian domain from getting deleted?
indian domains are meant for the country people that is indians first, others later. if your are an outsider then your domain can be deleted and you will not get any justice to get any .in domain no matter what argument you put there as it will be case of cyber squatting which makes indian domains unavailable for local people for which the .in CCTLD was actually started for and goes against the cause, though local indian people can get justice as .in means a country targeted domain for indians.
and what i told you was about the rule thats gonna come up in inregistry forced by the govt to delete domains of cybersquatters.. but i think i did the wrong thing by telling it to you in advance. now i will not tell anything else thats gonna come up. as you only will come to know what will happen when the law is passed upon for cyber squatting in indian domains.
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Abhishek
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I am not talking about infringements of cnnic /inregistry- they get what they deserve.
You have plainly stated that you are aware of people involved in corruption at the higher levels of the domain industry in this case in India and this needs to be addressed immediately. Or are you just spouting?
I am pleased that we have a member that is privy to pending changes in the law relating to domain names in India it could be beneficial to the community.
However -If you feel the need to hide potentially useful information to fellow domainers for some reason of your own then feel free!
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04-29-2009, 12:51 PM
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Re: Success.co.in
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indian domains are meant for the country people that is indians first, others later.
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Seems *really* unlikely. The various .in extensions were specifically opened up to the international community. On the very front page of the registry website the first thing they proudly proclaim is:
".IN domain names are available to anyone! Companies, individuals, and organizations in India and abroad are eligible."
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04-29-2009, 01:40 PM
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Re: Success.co.in
How difficult would it be for a person or company to set up a dummy Indian address registry? If people can 'rent' an Indian address for their domains, how will the authorities know if they are genuine Indians or just foreigners with Indian addresses?
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04-29-2009, 01:43 PM
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What about NRIs? How will the authorities determine if the owner of a domain is an NRI or a non-Indian?
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04-30-2009, 03:26 AM
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Ive just come back from Spain sorting my house foundations out and while i was there i was invited to the Spanish Domain Authority .es conference they had speakers from spain obviously and a friend was there from england representing Nominet who i know due to working for them in the past, .de ,.in and .us representatives where there also.
The poster who looks to be threatning above speaks some half truths it seems India is looking at their domain market and in some circumstances recalling domains due to TM and Commerical enterprises they are also looking at holders of major .in and .co.in portfolios and watching what they do the general thoughts are the indian domain market has got out of hand and (this is the bit i was major shocked over) only 35% of .in and .co.in domains are owned by Indians.
It seems due to the fact that .us , .de and .es and .co.uk countrymen have first refusal on any domain under there country extension the indians are doing this also so if someone say started a company in india selling rice and registered there company it looks like they will have the means to claim there domains if owned by anyone parking, selling or not a national of India i heard no deadline when this was coming in to effect but its certainly food for though. People with names like ring.in or general dictionary names i doubt will be affected but premium names and i have a few of them may be at risk.
Believe it or not .co.uk is exactly the same if you registered a .co.uk domain and a company existed they have right to claim the name off nominet and 9 times out of 10 win
.us are only allowed to be owned by people from the usa or family outside of the usa or global business the same goes for .de and now the same is happening with .es in fact spain are going to have a major clamp down, talk is to the level of not allowing renewals but again no date was given.
So at the end of the day a very interesting meeting and i was pleased my friend invited me along to this closed session conference. Its certainly given me food for thought.
1. This will go into effect or 2. Income from people registering names will outway the losses they will get if they do put this into effect. Will have to wait and see
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04-30-2009, 04:01 AM
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It seems due to the fact that .us , .de and .es and .co.uk countrymen have first refusal on any domain under there country extension...
Believe it or not .co.uk is exactly the same if you registered a .co.uk domain and a company existed they have right to claim the name off nominet and 9 times out of 10 win
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There is no such thing as "first refusal" in any of these extensions - it's always first come, first serve (although there may be restrictions as to who can register).
What you say about .co.uk is not correct - they have a process similar to the UDRP. The only way someone can get your domain is through this process. I'd say the quality of their decisions is often better than UDRP decisions.
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